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Re: our project

Postby piquet95971 » 06 Aug 2013, 18:43

Tonight I have made a couple of gaskets for the water block off plate for the inlet manifold and for the top of the dog box. I still have to repair the threads in the top of the dog box housing but that can wait.

I removed the fuel pump as the gasket was sealed with horrible red silicone and found that the gasket was a bit ordinary. A holden fuel pump gasket fits and I just happen to have one in the tool box so it will be replaced and sealed with some proper gasket cement.
I also put all new spark plugs in place.

I visited Tawco in Bayswater and they had everything I need at the moment. I left with the wallet a bit lighter but with two new Chrome exhaust flappy things, 2 exhaust manifold flanges and gaskets and the prop shaft drive flange.

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peter

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Re: our project

Postby screwit » 06 Aug 2013, 21:54

I must call in there my self, haven't been there for about ten years, Bought a skeg and log from them
Have they got any old stock fittings Peter ?
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Re: our project

Postby piquet95971 » 06 Aug 2013, 22:47

It looks like they have a bit of old stock design stuff on the walls. They had the correct shaft coupling for my boat and the right size exhaust manifold flanges.

The display on the wall had different shaft logs, skegs (looked like they were un drilled ) fins also un drilled. Skeg and shaft log bushes galore in all sorts of sizes.

They also had new shaft glands with remote greasing points. I think that I'll look at modifying mine rather than buy a new one. I'm a while away from needing one but at least I know where to get it.
Their prices were cheaper than Cassels too.
Cheers
Peter
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Re: our project

Postby piquet95971 » 10 Aug 2013, 10:37

Copper washers for the sump located. exhaust flange bolts cleaned up with a Dienut, old gaskets removed.
Im not sure what is going on with the fuel pump.
It seems to have a cannister on the end of it. The cannister is screwed on to the top of the fuel pump.
I assume that it is some sort of either fuel filter or a reservoir of some kind.
I will take a photograph and post it here.
The thing has fairly thin walls and has at sometime had some holes repaired.
I have tried to unscrew the cannister to see what it is but it is fairly well stuck and anything I try to use on it may crush it and then it really is useless.
Today will tap out the boss on the dogbox
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peter

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Re: our project

Postby piquet95971 » 16 Aug 2013, 13:44

With this damn boat of ours we have a Ford Y block as propulsion. As most would know that covers a wide range of engines . So I have been doing some investigation.

What I have found out is that it is probably a 272 Cu in engine> The code cast into the block near the distributor is CEBY 6015B. One reference says that it is a 256-272 cu in engine casdt in Canada Used in Australioa and South Africa.
The inlet manifold has ECG9425H cast into it. I can find reference to manifoods with a suffix of A,B,C and d but not H.
the next numbers traced were a bit more elusive and give it better identity. The numbers/letters cast into one of the cylinder heads is ECG-D. this is where i struck some gold. I found a reference that identified them as being off a 1955 272 cu in. The othere details about them are Inlet Valve size 1 7/8", compression ratio of 7.6:1, rated at 162 HP witha 2 barrel carby.

The engine number is &ATW10526&. I assume that the & sign was stamped in so that it was difficult to add numbers/letters in front or after original number to change its identity?

This this is really going to fly NOt. 162 hP from a 4.7 ltr engine 58 years after it was first built!!!!. I can get that out of a bloody Hyundai these days!!!!

Which leads me on to the Carby
It is a Holley. There are all sorts of numbers on it. None of which mean much sense to anyone that I have talked to so far.
On the air horn are the numbers C2TE-9510-M, 245 and List 2487.
On a flat tag riveted to the carby is an aluminium tag with the FOMOCO logo which has C2TE-MB-2DE

The only one that makes any sense is the List 2487. This I found as an R2487A listing . Other details for it are 2300fitted to a 1965 Ford Truck 292 othere number C2TE-9510-M.
So It looks like we have a 1955 Ford 272 Yblock to fit to the boat, that at one stage has had a Carby off a 1965 fORD 292 fitted to it. I believe that the Carby is either a 300 or 350 CFM carby. It does not have the J Tube fitted to it that it should have for marine use.
The best part is that parts are still available. I have removed the fuel bowl and the metering plate and all looks clean and fine internally. It does have a 5.5 power valve and it has been suggested that a boat should have a 4.5. That's easy to rectify.For the want of $40, I'll still put a kit through it.
so there we have it some problems resolved and more investigation to be done.

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Re: our project

Postby piquet95971 » 23 Aug 2013, 21:02

This week I have been doing some work on the trailer. I started to remove the old carpet from the skids only to realise that the old skids should be replaced. The trailer is obviously not the original but the boat fitted quite well there are a couple of mods that I want to make so that it will be supported better and less likely to get damaged along the way.

I have bought some new timber to make the skids and for the want of $30 it was not worth the minor expence. Tomorrow if the rain goes away I will hit the Oregon with the belt sander, drill the mounting holes with my new AEG Cordless drill/driver and then bolt them in place. Then remove them and give them a couple of coats of varnish. I am intending to make a vee block for the bow to sit and give the bow support that it didn't have previously.
In a hard rubbish collection we managed to find some long lengths of carpet with which to pad the skids. The colour doesn't really match the boat but I suppose if it's free the colour is just absolutely correct.

I'm getting everything ready for putting the engine in place but don't trust my engine crane to do the job so I'm looking to rig up a gantry with a chain block to do the job. Not sure if the carport beam will be strong enough and of course the Y block is such a light weight of an engine. NOT.

If its raining and not too cold then the clean sump and the new fuel get put back in place. Then I may go into the garage to put the kit through the .
Cheers
Peter

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Re: our project

Postby piquet95971 » 25 Aug 2013, 22:01

Timber skids made and installed. Didn't get them off and sanded but did manage to get some other work done on the engine.

I have given the sump a really good clean, to ensure that any crud was removed. I have given the outside of the sump a coat of paint and this afternoon I bolted it back onto the block. I couldn't find out how the oil pickup through the side of the sump should be sealed so I decided to go with my gut feeling. I left the fibre washer on the inside sealed it with some non hardening Permetex and on the outside I fitted an annealed copper washer under the nut. I left this all loose until after the pickup pipe was fitted into the oil pump then did up all the bolts for mounting the sump. The pickup mounting nut and the union for the oil pump have been tightened. So it's all ready for filling up with oil.

The carby still has to have the kit put through it before I think about seeing if it will start.
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Re: our project

Postby piquet95971 » 31 Aug 2013, 22:35

Some or should I say very little of the planned work for today didn't happen.
Instead we went out with our daughter to go for a test drive in a car with her. Long story short is that she has bought herself a new Subaru XV.

We traded our BMW 316 on it and will inherit her BMW 318is. I'll giver her a help with some cash when I get some so that she doesn't feel like we have ripped her off.

From my point of view it will mean when the get the project in the water we can go away as a family in one car for the boating thing as opposed to taking the ute and another car. The XV has the towing capacity and being an AWD should get the floaty thing out of the water OK.

Tomorrow I hope to get some more done. The weather is really good of varnishing at present!!
Cheers
Peter

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Re: our project

Postby piquet95971 » 07 Sep 2013, 16:53

To day apart from clean up Australia Day!! I have achieved a reasonable amount of work done before the rain came along.

I cut up some foam for the top of the skids, staped them in place and then cut the carpet or the top and sides of the skids. I also stapled this in place but will get some clouts to hold it more permanently. All the bolts have been tightened so that part of the trailer is now finished.

The winch had been poorly installed to the Sampson post. The tacks of weld were atrocious. A small touch with the grinder on one side saw them come off and the a twist and the other two at the other end just snapped. It will be properly bolted on when it is reinstalled. I also took the cable off and threw it in the recycling bin. It was galvanised wire that had kinked in a couple of places, was flattened in another couple and had some split strands. Just a disaster waiting to happen on a number of accounts.

I'm also chasing up an overhaul kit for the waterpump. I removed it from the engine took the back off the pump to find that the impeller is completely stuffed. There are a number of vanes that have broken and a few others that have fatigue cracks. I found the part number but as to whether they are available is a different matter.

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Re: our project

Postby Greg » 07 Sep 2013, 18:06

Jabsco type pump Pete?

I've always found this handy: http://www.jabsco.com.au/impeller_select.pdf


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